Or rethink our skill system, because what's the point in leveling these skills, when a 2 week player can destroy what took 3+ months to skill for?

Even WoW rewards hard work better than this.

Put the time in = earned your rewards.

All threads like these show, and for that matter people like Ace demonstrate is that playing the game in a manor that allows for such negligence and carelessness has softened those players to a point where any threat or risk that can hurt their little lively hoods can't be dealt with using the mentality they've grown.

If you can't take the steps to defend yourself in such a hostile environment; around hostile people who are all looking to hurt you, then you deserve whatever losses occur. now post that bullshit kumbaya video nonsense crap to me so i can laugh in your face a second time.

excuse me, there are other crying threads which need my attention

I believe that EvE should be a difficult game. It should take effort to kill a multi-billion isk ship. Being able to kill freighters and other high value targets in high sec in seconds, with a bunch of low skilled alts for giggles devalues EvE. Why put in effort and pay 50 - 500 mill wardecs to hunt targets, or pirate in low or null and hunt targets and in turn be hunted when you can just sit safely and immune in high ganking multi billion isk freighters / jump freighters risk free.

Eve was a harsh universe untill the last miner barge HP buff, now it's just a world of war crack clone. The miner buff was an IQ dumb down enougth. Eve would trully die if they buffed freighter HP or made ganking any harder.

"When confronted with their powerlessness, many noobs will attempt an attack on your real life, frequently insinuating that are a pathetic nerd irl. A special favorite of the noob is to question your sexuality, in particular to claim that you are a virgin, and that 'no real woman' would touch you voluntarily. Another popular tactic is to claim that you are/were helpless against physical abuse, and that you take out your frustrations on the innocent in game."


I took that off of a post in the (forgive me) WoW forums. You can replace "noob" with "carebear" and it applies to EVE easily. Aside from calling them all virgins, you pretty much nailed it.

I'd argue, that the kind of person you have to be to derive solace from imagining that someone who defeated you in a video game is actually a pathetic loser irl, would be the kind of person who isn't "winning!" irl themselves.

2 BIL will barely buy you a freighter, it wont touch a Jump freighter

Haha. You obviously don't know how these things operate do you? Let me help you a bit here.

1. They will not be waiting in system for your scout to spot them, local will look normal and friendly.
2. You will be perma-bumped by neutrals that are the suicide gankers alts.
3. Any attempt to log off to escape the neutral bumpers results in more neutral alts in noob ships shooting you suiciding to cause you to maintain an aggression timer, thus you will never log off because they will always have a fresh alt in an Ibis to re-aggress you.
4. Then after you can't warp, can't log, the suicide group logs in or jumps in.
5. You die.

I hope this helps.

That's where the problem is: it's too easy.

If EvE wants to be considered hard CCP can't just let something this easy exist. My healer in WoW can he harder to play, than this mechanic allows. That's how simple it is.

Defending it as a combat tactic shows the players want a game that is as easy as how they think WoW is. WoW long did away with cheap tactics like Divine Intervention (aggro things on the pally [like using a hunter's misdirect], he dies, so the whole raid can pass through mobs). But EvE players still want DI like tactics, and also want to claim EvE is harder to play???

Trying to force players to play without DI, by using DI as their tactic is beyond weird, especially defending it as legit (DI never was designed to avoid mobs [it was designed to sacrifice yourself so someone else can live, like a tank], why it was eliminated) to try to enforce having a fleet escort freighters.

basically anyone who thinks it's too easy has never actually done any freighter ganking and would likely screw up hilariously if they tried it, but even after failing at doing something "easy" they'll just come back and continue saying it's too easy and must be nerfed

All I do is offer the examples, and in this case, a perfect one that fits (and a game doesn't need to be WoW to be the same..